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Postlude to “Why do Mormon (LDS) facilities look so good?”

Posted by admin on September 19, 2009
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Back on August 27th I posted a blog entitled “Why do Mormon (LDS) facilities look so good?” I was very surprised at the number of people that opened and read the blog…about 3 times my normal readership per post…including almost 60 from Utah. I have since found out that the blog was linked on Mormonlife.com…go figure.

Since that time I have had conversations with several national organizations about the post and just posted an excerpt of the blog on the International Facility Managers Association (IFMA) site. That prompted a response from the gentleman that was the webinar leader that stirred my thoughts on this topic (If you don’t know what I am talking about then you are either one of my kids or have not read the first blog…or both). Below is his response to my post on IFMA:

Thank You for the comments and compliments concerning church facilities for the LDS Church.

A few corrections should be made. I do have a large area to cover but it only includes a portion of Montana which includes 33 facilities as well as some responsibilities for a welfare farm. Most of the facilities custodial duties are cared for by the general membership as member involvement. We have a small staff with most of our emphases placed on preventative maintenance, major repair, construction, and future planning., etc. Our main goal is directed towards priesthood leaders and assisting them in facilities care so as to relieve them of that concern which allows them to direct their time and efforts in helping members and their communities in sharing our believes and helping others to grow spiritually.

S. StXXXX XXXXXX, CFM
Great Falls FM Group

I have had a dozen or more responses to the original blog from LDS members and each one has been very insightful regarding the topic of facilities. Many of the responses I got from evangelicals and other protestant readers surprised me. I heard things about the LDS having “deep pockets” or that they are “works based” or that they can spend more on their facilities because they do not pay salaries to their leaders at the local church level. I even had one response indicating that because the LDS are works based that they are “eager” to help at the facilities.

While some of these…maybe all…have some validity or some segment of truth, it makes me scratch my head. Postlude to Why do Mormon (LDS) facilities look so good?

While I am scratching my head (maybe you too) let me ask some questions for your input…or just to ponder:

1. Do those of us who are not LDS believe in the priesthood of the saints as part of an incarnation belief system?

2. Don’t we want to remove the “burden” of maintaining the facilities from those called to preach, teach and lead….whether paid to do so or not? Does this not apply to those who are paid staff as well as lay people called to be ministers of the gospel in any form that may take? Re-review my post about Acts 6:1-7

3. I get the sense that we want to make excuses for not maintaining our facilities as well as the LDS…or other groups. WHY??? If we can not afford to maintain them….then for heavens sake, don’t build them. We have all heard building committees and capital campaign leaders quote the scripture about not building without counting the costs….well…frankly, I think that “counting the cost” goes far deeper than the initial cost of sticks and bricks, but extends to the short term and long term care and maintenance of the facilities. Is that not part of the cost? I would venture to say that if you look at the total cost of ownership of a building, that the cost of operation over a 30 year period will far exceed the initial cost of construction….so are we truly considering the costs or just the initial part of the costs?

4. Do we really believe that stewardship is NOT about what we give, but rather taking care of what we have been given….entrusted with? We should not say that we are “giving” tithes and offerings but rather we are “returning” tithes and offerings. It is not ours to give…but rather to return to the giver of all things. Do we believe that everything on and in the earth belongs to God? I do!!! If we believe that, then what are we doing with the things that have been entrusted to us?

I hope that this makes you/me (because I do not live this principle like I know I should) do more than scratch our heads, but that it will challenge us to the core and have us rethink our paradigm associated with stewardship. Take out a piece of paper and pen and write down all of the things that have been entrusted to you….this list could be huge. Then review the list and ask yourself what you are doing to care for (steward) these gifts from God….as each one was provided by HIM and him alone. We did not create any of these items…but we have definitely been commissioned/called to care for them.

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5 Comments


  1. charlie

    The reason their property look so nice is because its a way of life with them. For the most part they are clean cut nice people and their life style shows that therefore their facilities are well kept. It all about respect…

    September 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm


  2. Steve Cruze

    I find it relevant that of the first three things man was given along with life,…. was stewardship (Gen 1:26) Man was given ‘rest’ or worship (Gen 2:3) Man was given a helper or family for stewardship. (Gen 2:18) We choose what we are stewards of and from those prime choices flows culture. The LDS culture emphasizes stewardship over places of worship as being first over ones own home and family being pre-eminent over everything else man has been given dominion over.

    Beyond debate is ultimate reality. In that reality men of faith continue what God has purposed and started here and now.

    September 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm


  3. Bob Smith

    It is unfortunate, but it is easy for us to fall into the trap of believing that taking care of the physical condition of our church buildings is someone else’s responsibility. Just yesterday, some empty boxes were in the hallway at our church and a lady walked by and told me how somebody needs to move those boxes to the dumpster. It was clear from her words and tone that she disapproved of that clutter, but it was also clear that she wasn’t about to do anything about it other than complain. (For the record, the music minister and I did take them to the dumpster.)

    This sort of thing is a typical human failing. I am not suggesting that everything should be done by volunteers, but churches and church members should consider maintaining their buildings and grounds as part of their stewardship responsibilities.

    Hmmm, who could a church turn to if they don’t have the staff or volunteers that can perform preventive maintenance and make ongoing repairs?

    September 21st, 2009 at 10:07 am


  4. Brad

    “It’s not my job” … “I am above taking trash out” … we live in the video-game world (lazy)
    But if Jesus was near we would do what He ask but if not we just step over the boxes.

    September 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am


  5. Charles Bradley

    I have been in Utah for 4 years and have been involved with evangelical churches for 15 yeas.
    The spiritual climate here is one of legalism and lawlessness, all at the same time. To balance the issue there should be some context of what is sacrificed for image. If you look at the “family health” stats for my state, you may see some low points.
    Yes, we are lazy Americans and we work hard for things. The Mormons have emotionally attached themselves to church facilities as part of their ego and their image.
    This is not true of many Christians who are not so concerned with how things look or “are keeping real”. We are a mess, but we love each other on that emotional level.
    Our church facility is very nice and has a home type feeling. “They do a great job”. Telling, yes I just take out the trash.
    Some of us are not motivated by the love of image, but the love of each other.
    My basic view is “they do a great job”. We need to be the “they” and love our church family like ourselves.
    Thank you,
    Charles Bradley

    October 8th, 2009 at 2:56 am

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